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#1 Posted : Wednesday, 27 December 2023 10:18:41 AM(UTC)
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There is a very high possibility of a big storm outbreak over the next four days. Please watch and listen for any warnings. I highly recommend that you register for alert text messages which are free for your area (as a general rule they are from your local Council) . At this stage I am having trouble uploading images . Please be careful and be prepared.

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, 27 December 2023 10:20:51 AM(UTC)
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Due to the possible seriousness of the upcoming storm system, I haven’t been able to upload graphs from the modelling system etc so I thought the best thing to do is paste directly from the Early Warning Network. EWN

https://www.earlywarning...christmas-and-boxing-day


An intense thunderstorm outbreak is on the cards for eastern Australia, and while it is still early, this setup may produce the most significant storms for the season, particularly on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, and Boxing Day.

A powerful upper system (cut-off low), deepening surface low and trough will extend through eastern Qld, NSW - sagging into Victoria. A volatile and highly sheared environment will exist to its east - generating widespread storms, with intense, fast-moving thunderstorms.

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A cut-off low drifts across NSW with a large swathe of severe weather to its east. Gif via WeatherWatch

Large to locally giant hail, damaging to destructive winds (the outside chance of seeing a weak tornado or two), and heavy rainfall leading to flash flooding can be expected with high-end storm activity - including the threat for supercells. This activity may grow upscale into the evening hours as it progresses east.

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ICON Storm Potential for Sunday 24/12/2023. Image via WeatherWatch

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ICON Storm Potential for Christmas Day 25/12/2023. Image via WeatherWatch



There may be complicating factors, including overnight rainfall/storm activity/cloud cover that lingers through the morning hours. These factors would lessen the overall severe threat for some locations, and with days on days of storm activity, how the atmosphere recovers will be something to keep an eye on.

Areas across inland Qld, extending into central and some coastal parts of NSW and northern Victoria, will be a high risk, with coastal regions of Southeastern Queensland a day-to-day proposition for severe storms (from Sunday on).

Not everyone across eastern Australia may see severe storms during this period, but for some that do, they could be rather nasty. Keep an eye on the sky, and heed any warnings as issued.

Heavy rainfall will also develop with convective activity as the surface low and trough deepen and drift east-southeast. Widespread 25-75mm falls are likely, with heavier falls up to and exceeding 100mm possible across parts of Victoria and northeastern Tasmania next week. This may lead to localised flash flooding and some riverine flooding.



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EC Accumulated rainfall totals next 10 days. Image via Windy.com

Stay tuned with EWN updates as this situation will be closely monitored and updated over the coming days.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, 27 December 2023 10:25:08 AM(UTC)
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As models update and we draw closer to the storms it has the potential to be very nasty even dangerous.
The best I can do is post the ABC article with the link. It has been very well written to explain the synopsis of this system.

https://www.abc.net.au/n...christmas-2023/103257550

Violent thunderstorms are likely across eastern Australia this Christmas, rivalling some of the most intense and widespread storm outbreaks of the past few decades.

The spell of explosive thunderstorms will result from an unusual weather pattern in late December — polar air currently escaping from Antarctica will drift directly over south-east states from Christmas Eve to Boxing Day.

Two children, a boy and a girl, play in muddy waters in Western Queensland
Parts of Australia have seen widespread flooding, bushfires and a tropical cyclone in recent days.(Supplied: Tara Rule)
The arrival of a wintery air mass in a hostile summertime environment will create an exceptionally volatile atmosphere, capable of producing severe thunderstorms from northern Queensland to southern Victoria.

While severe storms are not ideal for Christmas, it's still a more favourable forecast than widespread flooding, bushfires or a tropical cyclone.

Storm potential nearing theoretical maximum

Thunderstorms develop when warm, moist air sits below cold air, and the set-up of polar air drifting over high temperatures and humidity up and down the eastern seaboard is the perfect recipe for a major storm outbreak.

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A pool of cold polar air will drift over southeast Australia this Christmas. (ABC News)
One measure of storm potential is called Convective Available Potential Energy (CAPE), and the higher the CAPE, the more energy is available for a thunderstorms to grow.

During a standard Australian storm day, CAPE can often reach about 500 to 1,000.

However, modelling of CAPE for this Christmas is forecast to reach up to about 3,000, comparable to instability seen during infamously destructive storm outbreaks across the US plains — the most severe storm-prone region on Earth.

Another consequence of the out of season cold pool will be an

Jetstream forecast expected to enhance thunderstorms
The jet above eastern Australia will further enhance storm intensity, generating organised long-lasting thunderstorms and a high likelihood of supercells, the most dangerous storm type which can produce giant hail and destructive winds.

Storms growing in intensity through weekend

The storm zone today will include most of inland NSW and Queensland, although most storms should remain below the severe intensity.

Saturday forecast rain
Thunderstorms will develop over much of eastern Australia tomorrow.(ABC News)
The peak of the event will arrive from Christmas Eve when the polar air mass and jet arrive.

Tomorrow is likely to produce severe storms across much of Queensland, including Brisbane and northern NSW, possibly down to about Sydney.

While the skies are lighting up for Santa's arrival in the north, further south a developing low-pressure system — as a result of the polar air aloft — will cause areas of heavy rain with embedded storms over southern NSW and parts of Victoria.

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Severe thunderstorms and heavy rain are likely across much of eastern Australia on Christmas Eve.(ABC News)
Severe Christmas Day storms for eastern capitals

Widespread severe storms will then continue through Christmas Day from tropical Queensland to the Victorian coastline, and have the potential to bring flash flooding, hail and damaging winds to Australia's most populated stretch of coastline.

All eastern capitals could potentially see severe weather from thunderstorms on Christmas Day, and would be rated as a high chance in Brisbane, Sydney, and Canberra.

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A wet and stormy Christmas is forecast for eastern states.(ABC news)
While the most explosive storms impact Queensland and northern NSW, the heaviest rain should fall over Victoria and southern NSW, and areas of localised flooding could even develop into Boxing Day, although for now widespread major river flooding is unlikely.

Severe thunderstorms will continue to impact many parts of eastern Australia on Boxing Day before the polar air mass retreats into the Tasman Sea from Wednesday.


The stormy Christmas will ensure a wet finish to 2023, with an average of 20 to 100 millimetres of rain across the east during the next four days.


Up to 100mm of rain expected along east coast
Complicating the rain forecast is powerful thunderstorms which often produce hyperlocal rain bullseyes, and in some cases well over 50mm could fall in just a few hours.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, areas which happen to lie between storms may only receive a few millimetres

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, 27 December 2023 10:26:52 AM(UTC)
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So far the storms are doing what was expected they would by the modelling systems. There is some concerns from a small group of people that we may see some rain overnight and cloud tomorrow morning. But the dynamics are so primed that this will not stop storms from developing. I remember so many storms being written off due to cloud cover or light rain for storms to rapidly develop later in the day.
There is currently a STW for Toowoomba and surrounds. Strong winds, heavy rain and very strong winds were recorded.

The warning:

Meteorology
TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

Severe Thunderstorm Warning - Southeast Queensland
For people in Somerset, Toowoomba and Lockyer Valley Council Areas.

Issued at 7:14 pm Saturday, 23 December 2023.


Severe thunderstorms in the warning area have temporarily eased. However, the redevelopment of severe thunderstorms remains possible. The situation is being closely monitored and further detailed warnings will be issued as necessary
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, 27 December 2023 10:28:53 AM(UTC)
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Very dangerous storms this evening. SEWS has been to be used

The STW


Transmitters serving the area around the Lockyer Valley, Fernvale and Mount Nebo are REQUESTED TO USE THE STANDARD EMERGENCY WARNING SIGNAL BEFORE BROADCASTING THIS MESSAGE.

TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

Severe Thunderstorm Warning - Southeast Queensland
for DESTRUCTIVE WINDS, GIANT HAILSTONES and HEAVY RAINFALL
For people in Ipswich and parts of Logan, Somerset, Scenic Rim, Lockyer Valley and Brisbane City Council Areas.

Issued at 9:57 pm Saturday, 23 December 2023.

DESTRUCTIVE WINDS AND GIANT HAIL OCCURRING IN LOCKYER VALLEY


The Bureau of Meteorology warns that, at 9:45 pm, a VERY DANGEROUS THUNDERSTORM likely to produce destructive winds and giant hailstones was detected near Gatton and Grantham. This thunderstorm is moving towards the northeast. It is forecast to affect Hatton Vale by 10:15 pm and Lowood, Fernvale and Mount Nebo by 10:45 pm.

Another severe thunderstorm likely to produce destructive winds, giant hailstones and heavy rainfall that may lead to flash flooding was detected near Aratula and Rosevale. This thunderstorm is moving towards the east. It is forecast to affect Boonah, Mulgowie and Grandchester by 10:15 pm and Ipswich, Beaudesert and the area between Boonah and Beaudesert by 10:45 pm.

37mm was recorded in 30 minutes at Upper Bracker Creek to 7:04PM

7cm hail observed at Flagstone Creek
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, 27 December 2023 10:30:48 AM(UTC)
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13cm hail reported in some areas from last nights storm.

STW issued early this morning for storms from Stanthorpe to the Scenic Rim.


TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

Severe Thunderstorm Warning - Southeast Queensland
for DAMAGING WINDS, LARGE HAILSTONES and HEAVY RAINFALL
For people in parts of Southern Downs, Toowoomba, Lockyer Valley and Western Downs Council Areas.

Issued at 9:28 am Sunday, 24 December 2023.


The Bureau of Meteorology warns that, at 9:20 am, severe thunderstorms were detected on the weather radar near the area west of Millmerran, the area north of Millmerran and the area west of Warwick.

These thunderstorms are moving towards the east to northeast.

They are forecast to affect the area north of Warwick, Allora and Pittsworth by 9:50 am and Toowoomba, the area southwest of Toowoomba and the area northwest of Toowoomba by 10:20 am.

Damaging winds, large hailstones and heavy rainfall that may lead to flash flooding are .

At this stage I can’t post the track map.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, 27 December 2023 10:32:11 AM(UTC)
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Last night, 25 December 2023, deadly storms swept through Jimboomba, Helensvale, Oxenford and down the Gold Coast. Unfortunately a woman in her 50’s died when a tree branch landed n her. The damage was caused by a microburst and a tornado. When hit speeds equivalent to that of a category 2 cyclone.

Below some of the damage.

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Below is the doppler image with the suspected tornado

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, 27 December 2023 10:33:38 AM(UTC)
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Video footage of the tornado.

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#9 Posted : Wednesday, 27 December 2023 10:34:55 AM(UTC)
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Some f the hail that hit from the storms we have had. A possible record was had at Burpengary on Sunday 24 Dec, 15-6 cm.

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Gatton, Dayboro and other places also were hammered with large hail.

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Large supercell over Morayfield Sunday afternoon

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#10 Posted : Wednesday, 27 December 2023 10:36:27 AM(UTC)
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More damage from December 25 storm.

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#11 Posted : Wednesday, 27 December 2023 10:38:00 AM(UTC)
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Still a possibility of storms today and some being severe. Storms look to be more isolated than the previous 4 days, so a more of a hit and miss chance in simple terms. Over the next 2 days , Thursday and Friday there is a very slight chance we could hear just a rumble or too and maybe a a few showers.
Then storms should ramp up once again just in time for the weekend.

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You can see by EC that storms are more scattered on the modelling.

Here are the LI,s, cape and forecast sounding, still has the potential to fire off some storms. When the official sounding comes out we will get a better look at what is happening up through the atmosphere.

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, 27 December 2023 5:52:00 PM(UTC)
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Unfortunately 10 people were killed from these storms down the East Coast of Australia. 7 of those where in Queensland.

ABC news said
Family and friends are mourning the loss of seven people who have lost their lives during intense Christmas holiday storms in south-east Queensland.

All seven deaths, including that of a nine-year-old girl, have been confirmed following the discovery of more bodies today.

In one incident yesterday, three out of 11 men who were out on an annual Boxing Day fishing trip died when the 12-metre motorised pleasure craft yacht they were on capsized off the coast of Brisbane.

Acting Chief Superintendent Andrew Pilotto said water police, volunteer police rescue officers and the coast guard responded immediately to distress calls.


https://www.abc.net.au/n...ims-remembered/103267534

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#13 Posted : Thursday, 28 December 2023 7:53:33 AM(UTC)
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Just one of a about 3 warnings that went] out last night. The air was just a bit to dry for storms to get going yesterday. The inly storms that managed to fire off off were down towards the Southern Bayside area and south of Beenleigh down to South Port.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, 28 December 2023 8:34:28 AM(UTC)
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It is now official that a tornado did spawn on Sunday night. This was confirmed by BoM and released today.

https://www.abc.net.au/n...bane-christmas/103268056


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The Premier of Queensland has stated that this was unprecedented and it was the 1 st time that concrete power poles were blown over from the storm. This is not true. On this forum we have proof that on 17 Sunday November 2019 the tornado spawned in that storm that hit the Sunshine Coast, snapped Concrete Energex post in half and brought others down.

He also stated that it was like a mini cyclone, this was also the results of straight line winds.

The Sunshine Coast event is https://www.weatherforum...ay-to-Day-Weather/page37


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#15 Posted : Saturday, 30 December 2023 7:30:47 AM(UTC)
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An update from BoM of the storms

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