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#1 Posted : Saturday, 24 August 2019 9:00:12 PM(UTC)
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This IPCC thread is for promoting the AGW projections and highlighting the consequences of AGW climate change..


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'The IPCC was created to provide policymakers with regular scientific assessments on climate change, its implications and potential future risks, as well as to put forward adaptation and mitigation options.'

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#2 Posted : Sunday, 25 August 2019 6:32:37 PM(UTC)
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There are some hints that some have a vested interest in the burning of the Amazon
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'Camila Veiga of the Brazilian Association of NGOs said: ‘The fires are the consequence of a policy of environmental devastation, of support for agribusiness, of increasing pastures.’ The fires have been raging for around three weeks and an area the size of a football pitch is said to be lost every minute.'

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2019...re-10617538/?ito=cbshare

'The smell is of barbecue, caused by vast swathes of the world’s largest tropical rainforest going up in flames. Raimundo Mura, indigenous leader with the Mura tribe who live in a reserve near Humaita, Amazonas state said: ‘For the forest, I will go on until my last drop of blood. ‘All the trees had lives, they all needed to live, each in their own place. ‘For us this is destruction. What is being done here is an atrocity against us.’ The rainforest is home to some one million indigenous people and three million species of plants and animals. But it is being decimated at record rates – burnt or cleared for farming and mining. Scientists have recorded more than 74,000 fires in Brazil this year – an 84% increase compared to the same period last year. They can now be seen from space and have plunged the largest city Sao Paulo into darkness because of the heavy smoke. In total, the blazes have created a layer of smoke estimated to be 1.2 million square miles wide that spreads across Latin America to the Atlantic coast.

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2019...re-10617538/?ito=cbshare

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/'

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#3 Posted : Sunday, 25 August 2019 8:13:39 PM(UTC)
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My wife and I watched an amazing documentary hosted by Will Smith Called “ One Strange Rock”
It was the 1st episode in season 1 titled Gasp. It s how oxygen is created on this planet. Amazing.

Really concentrated on the importance of the Amazon Jungle.

Personally man is destroying this beautiful planet and if only they could put the great god dollar away and look at the consequences of their actions things would improve. Right now it doesn’t appear they are learning from the mistakes made.

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#4 Posted : Sunday, 25 August 2019 8:19:16 PM(UTC)
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, 27 August 2019 5:21:50 PM(UTC)
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Indonesia will build new capital city in Borneo as Jakarta sinks into the Java Sea.

https://www.9news.com.au...e-443c-95d0-71e2fc3c64d6

A jungle-covered area on the east of Borneo island is set to be transformed into Indonesia's new capital city.
Concerns over the sustainability of the congested and rapidly sinking political centre of Jakarta prompted the need for a new capital. The relocation was announced today by President Joko Widodo.
The proposed location, near the relatively underdeveloped cities of Balikpapan and Samarinda, is a far cry from the crowded powerhouse which has served as Indonesia's financial heart since 1949 - and Widodo acknowledged that moving the country's capital to the island will be a mammoth and expensive undertaking.
But Jakarta's rapid expansion in recent years has presented myriad environmental, economic and safety concerns, prompting the government to look elsewhere and ease the strain on the massive metropolis.

Experts estimate the city is sinking by up to 25 centimetres a year whilst also being swallowed by a rising sea, with 95 per cent of the region's north predicted to be underwater by 2050.
"It's a disaster," Heri Andreas, a land subsidence expert from Bandung Institute of Technology, told 9News.
"If we are taking the groundwater the land becomes compacted, so the above becomes lower and lower.
"Several parts in Jakarta have already sunk about four metres now and in the future maybe we can have two or three metres more."
Giant seawalls have been built in some coastal parts but even they're sinking.


We keep pumping groundwater out or building cities and suburbs on swampland and the inevitable happens.

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, 28 August 2019 6:11:37 AM(UTC)
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After the G7 meeting ABC is reporting that Brazil rejects G7 offer of $US20m Amazon fires aid, accuses West of treating it like a 'colony'.

https://www.abc.net.au/n...zil-like-colony/11453958


Brazilian officials did not give a reason for turning down the funds, but Mr Bolsonaro's chief of staff Onyx Lorenzoni, when commenting on the G7 offer of aid, told Brazil's Globo news website: "Thanks, but maybe those resources are more relevant to reforest Europe."

Macron cannot even avoid a predictable fire in a church that is part of the world's heritage, and he wants to give us lessons for our country?" Mr Lorenzoni added, referring to the fire that ravaged Notre Dame cathedral in Paris in April.

He also said Brazil could teach "any nation" how to protect native forests.

Under international pressure to act, Mr Bolsonaro said he might visit the Amazon region this week to check on the firefighting efforts.


It appears the whole thing is over 2 men with one in particular behaving like a spoilt kid.

The articles continues by adding

On Monday, Mr Macron slammed the Brazilian President for "extraordinarily disrespectful comments" about his wife on Facebook and reiterated that Mr Bolsonaro had lied about commitments to deforestation.

Mr Bolsonaro lashed back at him on Twitter, saying Mr Macron's "ludicrous and unnecessary attacks on the Amazon" were unacceptable and accusing him of treating the region "as if we were a colony".

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#7 Posted : Wednesday, 28 August 2019 7:10:50 AM(UTC)
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9 News

https://www.9news.com.au...9-4ed7-9692-93a8f4fcc900

Brazil's Bolsonaro won't accept $29.6 million in Amazon fire aid unless Macron apologises for 'calling him a liar'

Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro has announced Brazil will only accept an offer of international aid to fight Amazon fires if French leader Emmanuel Macron retracts comments that he finds offensive.
Mr Bolsonaro said Mr Macron had called him a liar and he accused the French president of questioning Brazil's sovereignty amid tensions over fires sweeping the Amazon region.
Mr Macron has to retract some of his comments "and then we can speak", Mr Bolsonaro s


Time to grow up I think. Man dominates man to his own injury. The planet suffers while the powers to be in the world play games.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, 29 August 2019 8:58:17 AM(UTC)
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Quite a bit of news around about the power grid in SA this week

The Guardian
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South Australia gas-fired power station sued over 2017 blackout

and Tesla technology helping us out

https://www.pv-magazine....rid-stabilization-costs/
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#9 Posted : Thursday, 29 August 2019 8:22:31 PM(UTC)
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Quite a bit of news around about the power grid in SA this week

The Guardian
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South Australia gas-fired power station sued over 2017 blackout

and Tesla technology helping us out

https://www.pv-magazine....rid-stabilization-costs/


Thanks for the info' southawk.We have to make a move to non renewables one day.Great SA is taking the lead and learning from teething problems.
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More on the Amazon and deforestation.
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Razing the Amazon costs everyone. Fires in the Amazon are pouring rivers of smoke across the continent– and have caused dark-outs in Sao Paulo, over 2700 km away. Scientists warn of a tipping point at 20-25% deforestation, beyond which weather patterns in Brazil would be altered permanently and large part of the Amazon would “die back”, transforming from forest to scrub savanna. As this shift accelerates climate change, it reduces one of the lowest-cost options to stabilize global temperatures: protecting the Amazon.
source

https://www.forbes.com/s...es/?edf=894#345c703442a0

from twitter... Environment defense fund
https://twitter.com/EnvDefenseFund

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#10 Posted : Saturday, 31 August 2019 5:40:06 PM(UTC)
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https://www.9news.com.au...e-46a1-a007-fe23d87987ab

Fighting flames with 'super soaker' backpacks: How military are tackling Amazon fires

No one was in a hurry.
All around us smoke hung thick in the air, coming from one of the thousands of fires burning in the state of Rondonia in Brazil's west.
For much of this month fires have raged across Brazil. Rondonia was impacted more than any other state and now we were travelling with a fire crew over the dirt roads that linked properties in the Amazon.

It was symbolic of the response across Brazil, even as world leaders used words like "crisis" and "emergency".
At the G7 summit, 9000km away, the world's biggest economies had pledged around $29 million to help.

Here, it was difficult to see the flames among the huge expanse of rainforest that stretches across eight countries and an estimated 50 million sq/km.
The air was smokey and the ground along the roads were blackened, but these weren't the fires we are used to seeing in Australia.
The response was also very different.
Five firefighters and a soldier made up the crew accompanying us.
The firefighters were armed with backpacks filled with water, a modified version of the super-soaker water pistols we played with as kids.

The Amazon may be known as the lungs of the world, but most of it belongs to Brazil.
Bolsonaro, an unashamed populist and nationalist, had repealed environmental legislation and encouraged farmers in the region to take control of their land.
In most cases that meant burning it to the ground.
On the way to the fire we passed skinny cattle grazing in paddocks that just months earlier had been rainforest.

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#11 Posted : Monday, 2 September 2019 2:33:37 PM(UTC)
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I find this a bit worrying for those folks in Victoria this summer?

'A large share of Victoria’s electricity is supplied by coal-fired clunkers. They broke down last summer, they’re broken down now, and they could break down again this summer,” said the Climate Council’s Senior Researcher, Tim Baxter.

22.08.19 By Climate Council
https://www.climatecounc...s/aemo-annual-statement/
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#12 Posted : Monday, 2 September 2019 4:46:26 PM(UTC)
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Conversely Sth Aust will be in trouble as well.
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Conversely Sth Aust will be in trouble as well.


Did Elon Musk ever finish building his batteries in SA?
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, 4 September 2019 12:07:47 PM(UTC)
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Conversely Sth Aust will be in trouble as well.


Did Elon Musk ever finish building his batteries in SA?[/quote]
Looks like l have some reading to catch up on
https://www.abc.net.au/n...y-finished-in-sa/9183868

I found this clip but it is 2017

Tesla has completed construction of its giant lithium ion battery, described as the world's most powerful, with testing expected in coming days ahead of a December 1 operation deadline.

The array of Tesla Powerpack batteries has been installed alongside French company Neoen's Hornsdale windfarm near Jamestown in South Australia's Mid North region.

South Australian taxpayers will spend up to $50 million subsidising the 100-megawatt battery.

In return, the SA Government will have access to some of the battery's output to provide stability services to the grid.

The Government will also have the right to tap the battery's full output to prevent load shedding blackouts if supply runs low this summer.

Load shedding happens when the market operator (AEMO) directs power providers to switch off supply to some customers to protect the grid.

The new battery will produce enough energy to power about 30,000 homes for a little over an hour.
What will the battery do?

The battery is privately owned by Neoen in partnership with Tesla. In normal circumstances, the battery will be charged with power from the nearby Hornsdale windfarm when power is plentiful and cheap.

The operators will then have the right to sell some of it back into the grid when the supply-demand balance is tighter and prices are higher.


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#15 Posted : Friday, 6 September 2019 9:33:43 AM(UTC)
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Just thought if anyone noticed recent ice volumes in the Arctic & Antarctic. Be interesting if the trend continues.

Damn, cant get images to work.

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#17 Posted : Monday, 9 September 2019 3:24:51 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for your post slovenski
I get quite dizzy with conflicting reports you here about the Antartic and Arctic ice melt .Confused
What are your thoughts on the articl you posted?

Found this article today which is recent . Increase in westerly winds melting western ice shelf by 2100

Did a bit of cut and paste below


"Global warming is driving a shift in regional winds around the edges of Antarctica, and that's speeding up the meltdown of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, new research shows.

Westerly winds that enable warmer ocean water to creep beneath the floating edge of the ice sheet have become more prevalent over the past 100 years, scientists found in a new study, published Monday in the scientific journal Nature Geoscience.

Paul Holland, a researcher with the British Antarctic Survey and lead author of the study, explained that the winds are changing because global warming is heating the tropics faster than Antarctica and the surrounding Southern Ocean. Contrasts between temperatures over different parts of the Earth are the main driver of wind. In this case, the increasing temperature differential from the equator to Antarctica is strengthening the westerly winds that circle around the frozen continent.

The way the westerly winds push the surface water allows warmer water from below to reach under the ice shelves, accelerating ice loss from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet.
....
"Our results show that the winds are on average becoming more westerly in this region [West Antarctica], whether there is an El Niño or not. So when an El Niño does occur, its influence is on top of the already stronger westerlies. A moderate El Niño now may have just as strong an influence as a strong El Niño did 100 years ago. In the future, even a weak El Niño may be strong enough to cause melt-inducing conditions," he said.

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West Antarctica is about as big as the contiguous western United States and covered with ice that's over a mile thick in places. Its melting is projected to contribute at least 2 to 8 inches of global sea level rise by 2100, Dutrieux said.

more from this research here.

Global Warming Is Changing the Winds Off Antarctica, Driving Ice Melt


https://insideclimatenew...-glaciers-global-warming



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Greenland's massive ice sheet may have melted by a record amount this year, scientists have warned.

During this year alone, it lost enough ice to raise the average global sea level by more than a millimetre.

Researchers say they're "astounded" by the acceleration in melting and fear for the future of cities on coasts around the world.

One glacier in southern Greenland has thinned by as much as 100 metres since I last filmed on it back in 2004.

https://www.bbc.com/news...nce-environment-49483580
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'In for a roasting’: Australia ‘on brink’ of ‘apocalyptic’ conditions

The Arctic is on fire. Now, Antarctica is suddenly experiencing a heatwave. And that means a looming rainfall apocalypse for Australia.

According to a recent report by senior researchers from the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, we’re in for higher than normal spring temperatures. And less rain.

It’s all because of record warm temperatures in the air swirling above Antarctica.

https://www.news.com.au/...a07f6b9c39b18897faa0e085
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'In for a roasting’: Australia ‘on brink’ of ‘apocalyptic’ conditions

The Arctic is on fire. Now, Antarctica is suddenly experiencing a heatwave. And that means a looming rainfall apocalypse for Australia.

According to a recent report by senior researchers from the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, we’re in for higher than normal spring temperatures. And less rain.

It’s all because of record warm temperatures in the air swirling above Antarctica.

https://www.news.com.au/...a07f6b9c39b18897faa0e085


I do have trouble with the adjectives..

'on-brink-of-apocalyptic-conditions'

When l see media reports with 'the apocalypse is nigh'.

I just refuse to read on.

If we don't see the apocalypse then people just 'turn off'. This a bad strategy by the AGW lobby.

Hollywood or Reality. Lets see

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